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View Poll Results: What would you like to see for 2003 ?
Leave the rules the same in each division used in 2002. 1 33.33%
Switch all divisions to the .5-tenths Tree 0 0%
Allow delay boxes/electronics 2 66.67%
Reduce the e.t. to 9.99 or quicker 0 0%
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Racer soundoff: Kerker Sportsman Motorcycle Series
11/26/2002

www.nhra.com/ With the 2003 season just around the corner, the NHRA Technical department will be conducting opinion polls throughout the winter, on some of the hottest topics.

This week, the NHRA Technical department is soliciting opinions on the Kerker Sportsman Motorcycle Series. In 2002, the series, which is campaigned in Divisions 4, 5, 6, and 7, was at an all-time high in participants. In an attempt to further the Series, which could expand to the other three divisions in 2003, the Tech department is interesting in racer opinion on the future of the series.

"The basic reason is to allow the racer the opportunity to campaign at out-of-division events without changing anything," said Division 6 Director Mike Rice. "As the program continues to grow, we want to give the racers the freedom to go to any division and just race, without having to worry about which rules that event is run under."

Currently, the Kerker Sportsman Motorcycle Series is campaigned based on rules set by each of the divisions, with Division 4 and 5 allowing all electronics, based on fields 11.99 and faster, and using a .5-tenths Full Tree. On the West Coast, Division 6 and 7 follow the guidelines of no electronics, 10.99 or faster, and a .4-tenths Pro Tree.

In hopes of bringing the entire Kerker Sportsman Motorcycle Series under one set of rules, the NHRA Tech department has developed some proposals for review.

1. Leave the rules the same in each division that was used in 2002.

2. Switch all divisions to the .5-tenths Pro Tree.

3. Allow delay boxes/electronics

4. Follow the 2003 NHRA Rulebook and rules used for Summit Series

5. Reduce the e.t. allowed to 9.99 and quicker only.

"As Division Directors we'd liked to come up with one set of rules and allow the racers to have a voice in which direction this series goes," said Rice. "It's their series and would like nothing better than to tailor the entire program to the racers' wants and needs."

Send your comments on these proposed changes to the Kerker Sportsman Motorcycle Series to [email protected]


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Post I sent this...

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One of the reasons Kerker doesn't have more bikes...

Lucas Oil doesn't post the Motorcycle Champions!

Why would I want to race all year & not get any ink for it?

www.NMRAonline.com (National Motorcycle Racing Association)
Has a Pro E/T class...(with the Largest field of racers.)
Pro. 0.4 tenths tree 7.50 to 12.99 elapsed time limits.
However, this is a sportsman series, 0.5 tenths tree is good.

If you limit the bikes to 9.99 & quicker, there will be less participation...
To include the regular 12.99 & faster bikes will create a bigger field.

Any one would be ashamed to go slower than 13.00 seconds in the 1/4 mile,
However 12.99 seems to be a respectable elapsed time...
You do the math, very few production motorcycles can run under 10.00 seconds.

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Just leave the tree @ .400 Pro Light. Many motorcycle drag racers have been racing the Pro Tree. That is one factor or rule that should stay the same.


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does the type (or speed of a tree) have anything to do with the out come of a race??


just wondering..
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Tree

Sure it does Bob...

If your bike rolls out slow,
Due to tall front tire or slipage,
then you may have a hard time with 0.4

However this is a sportsman series,
and the 0.5 tree should go over just fine.

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i was thinking that the clock dosent start ticking until you break the light at the starting line...so if it you took 20 seconds to launch AFTER the light turned green, that 20 seconds isnt added to your et....you would lose the race( hopfully your opponet would leave on time, and beat you to the finish line), even if you had a 5 second quicker et than your opponet....right??? so in my narrow mind the tree dosnt mean crap, as long as the two racers are using the same tree...
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It is relative. Your hesitance at the light can and will be the factor, or one of the factors involved if you lose any race. Even if the loss is by one or two hundredth's or thousand's of a second from your opponent.


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so what differance would a .4 clock and a .5 clock(besides .1) be if both racers are seeing the same lights??? for get the conditions of the bike, track,weather, lets say the two bikes are identical, and the racers are twins......with the same reaction times....
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Apples are apples......Oranges oranges.

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for get the conditions of the bike, track, weather,
That is not even splitting atoms. First off, the difference between the two trees, .4 and .5 respectively, would be like the difference between Man and Boy.

Here's why:

.4 Pro Tree - when the racers fully engage the the beams, now fully staged. The Starter pushes his button, triggering usually a 1.5 second pause just prior to ALL three ambers going lit. If you do not react as the 3 ambers begin to light.........Most probably you are done for that round or done for the day!

.5 Sportsman Tree - The very same applies EXCEPT after each racer is fully staged. The ambers trip one-by-one until the green illuminates. This means that when the #1 amber light illuminates you have atleast the #2 amber light to become fully ready to launch. When the #3 amber light is lightly dimmed to full that is when racers need to launch. A street bike should stick a perfect 500 light or come damn close!

As for the bike, track and weather conditions along with the reactions and riders. THIS IS ALL FULLY RELATIVE AND ARE ALL ONE.......Where do you idealize this splitting from?

In closing, all conditions are relative. The weather could be cold, giving one racer the advantage over the other by tire compound and psi alone. Going further, one lane of the track could have more imperfections than the other, more traction compound or one racer to the other may have heat cycled his/her tires better than the other. Again.....More. Suspension set-up and gearing play in the total equation.

So, the difference in the tree is above. So be an amoeba and soak it into the pores of your being. As for trying to split for your own like. It is ALL RELATIVE to the final outcome at the stripe. Either victor or crispy critter! A sport comprised of physics, mathematics, earth sciences, etc..

Hope this helps you out?


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Come out & race with us...

Bob,

Perhaps you can get away from this keyboard & race with us?

If you wait .2 longer to leave,
That is how much you gave away.

You will need to make it up in order to win.
However if you exceed your dial you lose.

Once you actually start doing it,
you will begin to understand...

I've won a heads-up Super Gas race,
with a slower time than the other racer,
all the time was made on the tree.

Come out & race with us...

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