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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 12-13-2005, 09:28 PM Thread Starter
 
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New riders on r6?

Hey all....Just wondering if there are any success stories on new riders getting R6's or any supersport 600's? Seen plenty of advice on not to do it, but haven't seen much in terms of people who did and were happy with the decision. Please let me know if you're one of the ones who made the leap successfully.

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post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old 12-13-2005, 09:38 PM
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If you're just trying to talk your way into it, go ahead and do it. I'm sure you'll find someone who'll say it's OK.

Meanwhile, the prevailing wisdom of riders worldwide is don't do it. In many countries they even have laws that require starting on a smaller bike, usually a 250. I recommend a bigger one, myself. The EX-500. There are others.

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post #3 of 20 (permalink) Old 12-13-2005, 09:48 PM
 
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i am 17, and my first motorcycle was/is an 02 gsxr-600. it was my first time riding a motorcycle, besides riding a few dirt bikes here and there. the first time i got on it, it was scary as hell. it felt wierd at first but i got used to itafter a while. if you have a respect for the power that the bike has, and good throttle control you should be okay, but i think it would be better to ride another motorcycle for a while first. even if you dont buy one, if you have a friend that has one u can ride. i have also heard alot of people say to get a junk motorcycle to learn on, then re-sell it and THEN get your 600 or whatever. it is a risk and is pretty scary to jump right to a 600, but ultimately the choice is yours.
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post #4 of 20 (permalink) Old 12-13-2005, 10:03 PM
 
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there's a huge debate on whether or not its ok to start w/ a 600cc sportbike. i have 2 friends that started on modern 600s, one started w/ a '00 R6 and another started w/ a '00 gsxr-6 and both look like they're pretty comfy on their bikes. at the same time i've seen a girl who bragged about how easy and forgiveable the new gixxers are as starter bikes during msf class, and during the riding course couldn't turn and lean to save her life... in fact all she did was complain how the class was useless because everything was slow instead of soaking up everything the instructors had to offer.

looks like you've been reading and are well informed but you're dead set at getting yourself an R6 so you shouldn't rlly need anyone to say its ok for you to do it as i'm willing to bet you're not going to change your mind NEway. well, better than starting w/ a liter bike at least

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It just depends, and I agree, new 600s aren't good mount to learn on, certainly not R6. It's been my experience that 600s are rather chore to ride for regular traffic riding, unlike SV650, there's no instant torque, just rev and rev and wait. All the immense hp is reserved for top end.

When you get to the powerband, then it's too much for traffic and you're asking for collision when you're doing this around cars. Bikes like SV and EX500 have plenty of low end grunt and midrange to get around town, a lot more useful.

And then when you get to the curves, anytime you're carrying a moderate lean through a corner, you must be aware of the rpm range and have good throttle control on a 600. Being in the powerband through the corner is not a good thing for the inexperienced, as it could easily result in a highside. Beginner bikes have even pull, so they're much compliant on tolerating mistakes.

However, if you travel around place with mainly straight roads and stay off the powerband, you could get away with it as long as it's older 600. But compared to beginner bikes, they're not easy to steer in low speeds and brakes are really sensitive.

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post #6 of 20 (permalink) Old 12-14-2005, 05:43 AM Thread Starter
 
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No 600 for me...Thanks

Thanks for all the good info guys on new bikes for beginners. I've decided that i'd rather have more fun with a starter bike than with a 600 RR. Not to mention more safety...

Now, would a Ninja 250r or ex 500 be a reasonable place to start for someone looking to get into things? Profile is 33 yr old, 2 kids, no tickets, blah blah...basically I've got too many responsibilities to screw this up.

Thanks again.
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Ninja 250 or 500 are great bikes to start on. Or a Suzuki GS500. You'll learn much easier and quicker than starting out on a 100+hp bike that's just going to scare you.
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post #8 of 20 (permalink) Old 12-14-2005, 09:57 AM
 
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Check out the SV650. It has a the linear power delievery of a starter, a good low end of a twin, and the modern looks.



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post #9 of 20 (permalink) Old 12-14-2005, 12:44 PM
 
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If I had kids, there would be no bike. I couldn't risk it with all the boneheaded drivers these days.

Anyway, I started on an R6, but I have grown up racing dirt bikes, so I had a good understanding of peaky power and throttle,braking etc control. I am also a big guy which I think helps. I haven't had any close calls(knock on wood) due to inexperence, just people pulling out in front of me etc...
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post #10 of 20 (permalink) Old 12-14-2005, 04:30 PM
 
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well, i'm a new rider on a '05 kawasaki 636, and i don't agree with the whole "start on a small bike" i say go for it, i had no problems keeping the bike under control or learning the controls on it, think this way, a 636 may have 125 hp at the engine on a 365lbs bike, but if you don't twist the throttle, you won't feel any of that power, have self control and better yet, some fear and respect for what your sitting on. i say go for the new 600 and have a great bike for a good while, instead of an already outdated 600, that will need to be replaced in a few more years.

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