Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Terrible Hole, IN
The bike is worth whatever amount the guy will accept for it. You're not responsible for his financial issues, if he's willing to let it go for $4500 then go for it. All he can do is say no. Don't worry about being a lowballer, offer what you can/think it's worth, and leave the yes/no decision to him.
The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all of fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomanical, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully. - Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion