Originally posted by sjn2560
This is one thing I am still struggling with after 7,000 miles in the saddle.
This might be a stupid question, but how can you tell how far you can push tires without pushing them too far?
I have gradually increased the speed I take the same corners at over months, but I still have no idea how much harder I can push them. Sometimes I will drive my cage through the same corners and see what speed a car will handle them at. I am even considering having two friends follow me in a car through the twisties with a camcorder so I can see my lean angles.
the problem is there are too many variables to say it's safe to go x when road says y.
a good source of info for you would twist of the wrist, volume 2
believe it or not, tires slide quite a bit on a bike before they get evil and drop you. the reason they seem to be so quick with pro racers is they are sliding them to begin with. but the front especially, can be pushed out really far if you understand how and when to bring it back. rears slide pretty good as well, but i think they take more experience to slide well.
a really fast bike will also slide with less pridictability and needs more finese to straighten out than a smaller bike, like an sv or fzr400 or ex500, etc. on the little bikes when your sliding the front, you can pick them up so easily with the throttle. the big bike takes a gentler hand. the principles are the same, it's just rider control that's different. in other words, practice this stuff with the 250. the f4i is a lot of bike learn cornering on. the 250 will teach you a lot more.
if you want the easy answer, if you corner right, you'll most likely lose traction on your tires when the exhaust can lifts it off the ground. if you corner wrong, you can crash at pretty low speeds. one piece of advice i like to give to people is to relax when riding. make sure you have your arms loose, legs loose, etc. look far ahead. if you never stop doing it, it gets harder to crash. but a word of warning, it sounds MUCH easier than it is.