Great advise as usual
Excellent posts as always apexiusmaximus. I personally don't believe that if you put a knee down on a public road you are a squid. If that is the case then anyone who rides there bike/tires hard enough must be a squid too. Personally I have not put my knee down yet, but I have scraped my toe sliders. If you are getting over to do that, or if you have no weenie (chicken0 stripes on your tires then you are over far enough to put a knee down. After following a friend around who regularly scratched, i noticed that on some tuns, I actually leaned further than he did- yet he had his knee down! He simply used his weight on the outside othe bike, with his knee down to turn, and therefore needed less lean angle than me. For me it just makes me nervous to hang thatfar off. As I feel myself getting closer to the ground i instinctively tuck my leg in tighter to the tank and get my foot higher on the peg. One of these days, this summer i am gonna try your clover leaf idea.