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What is the most interesting design feature of the Honda RC211V regarding the frame and suspension ?

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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 12-10-2001, 11:22 PM
 
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What amazes me is how small they've made that bike. Even Rossi complained about it, and he's not exactly Mr. Big !!
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What amazes me is how small they've made that bike. Even Rossi complained about it, and he's not exactly Mr. Big !!
You re right about it being too small Smeg. Actually it's much smaller than the NSR500!
You re wrong about Vale though. He is Mr Big! If you don't believe me ask Amber (BTW what happened to her? )

No really, Valentino is 1.80 m high which makes him the tallest active GP rider. Only Kevin Schwanz was as tall as him as far as I know. This is why they have similar riding style also (Kevin said that in an interview), because a tall rider has problem tucking in, plus the long legs are a problem.
He asked Honda for a bigger screen as he couldn't fit behind the original one and was loosing speed on the straights and they made it immediately!

Anyway, all this has nothing to do with the question :

The question is about a unique characteristic that hasn't appeared on a bike before (as far as I know )
It's a great idea and also so simple that I think we 'll see it soon on 'our' bikes.

hint: It has to do with the suspension-frame interface.

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I'd better win a prize for this one !!

The frame is twin spar alloy but Honda hasn't bolted the swingarm pivot through the crankcases. They're keeping the frame/swingarm assembly apart from the engine and instead of the shock bolting to the frame at the top, the body and compression bottle are captive to the swingarm.
Loads are transmitted through (2) tie rods bolted beneath the swingarm pivot, reducing unspring weight and friction losses.

This is a unique and simple design and no-ones thought of it before. The big H strikes again !!
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They're keeping the frame/swingarm assembly apart from the engine and instead of the shock bolting to the frame at the top, the body and compression bottle are captive to the swingarm.
Loads are transmitted through (2) tie rods bolted beneath the swingarm pivot, reducing unspring weight and friction losses.

This is a unique and simple design and no-ones thought of it before. The big H strikes again !!
Hey Smeg! You win!!!

It's a really cool idea isn't it? The loads from the shock are not transmited to the frame at all like that. The swingarm takes care of the loads itself!

I was hoping that this question would last longer, but you got it really fast! It seems you re studying hard during the night

You win a LARGE bottle of OUZO (brand of my choice as I'm the expert on this) whenever you come to Greece!!
The offer is valid even if you don't come riding your bike

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You win a LARGE bottle of OUZO (brand of my choice as I'm the expert on this) whenever you come to Greece!!
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Ship it to Ibiza in July, that's as close as I'll get next year !!
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The latest issue of Sport Rider shows Freddie Spencer aboard the the RC211V, and you'd swear he was on a YSR50. Just imagine what Ruben Xaus would look like on it!
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Ship it to Ibiza in July, that's as close as I'll get next year !!
Ibiza is crap and full of gays, any Greek Island beats it by far

But I'm Greek, so what would I say

I'll just have to wait then. Don't take too long or I'll drink the bottle myself, and anotherone, and anotherone, just like the other one

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Ibiza is crap and full of gays
Is this true, ducky ?!!
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