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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 03-20-2001, 09:48 AM Thread Starter
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Why is it that people today always buy a bike that they are not ready for?

This weekend in Fresno a guy was killed on a 2 day old '01 Gixxer 1000. A week earlier he rode a 600. He had no business being on the 1000.

The group that I ride was out for a ride up in the foothills with him. This guy was pushing himself to keep up with 2 'Busas, a Gixxer 750 and some other bikes. Most all of the riders aside from this guy had experience on their bikes over 8 months. They knew the limits of their bikes. He had his bike for 2 days. 2 Days! It took me 1 month to get comfortable on my VFR to go on the freeway.

My friend was on the 750 behind the guy and witnessed the whole thing.

He took a blind right hand turn to fast. He started at the inside of the turn and went out. He hit a bump in the road, locked up the front wheel and collided with a mini van. He was killed instantly.

What pisses me off about this is that the guy had no reason to be on that bike. If you want a bike that, more power to you. But at least learn what you can and can't do on it before you go flying around the foothills. Why is that so many people get bikes that are out of their league?

Sorry that I had to post this sad story, but it needs to be told.

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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old 03-20-2001, 10:03 AM
 
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I hate to say it, but we knew it was going to happen with the new gixxer.

Sad post, but you're right Jester, it needed to be said.
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Too bad.
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You said he had a 600 before right? How long had he been riding that? That's a big jump, but not a crazy jump if you have your head on straight. I think this is a common problem with group rides. No one wants to be the slow poke and this guy with a new 1000 probably felt an obligation to keep up with the faster bikes (regardless of their riders talent). I think the real cause of the problem was riding with a group of riders too soon. Not that this guy was just an idiot for pushing his bike hard too soon. If he was by himself or just another friend it probably wouldn't have happened.
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It's all in the rider's head! He/She is the ultimate decision maker. If you put a dickhead on a 250 Ninja and throw him out on a canyon road, he'll probably crash.

It's sad that sportbikers die more often. But there's really not much you can do without negatively affecting the majority of riders who do ride within their abilities.
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Had something like that happen around here over the weekend. 21 year old guy doing a wheelie, slammed into brick wall and was killed.
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post #7 of 18 (permalink) Old 03-20-2001, 11:53 AM
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It's all in the rider's head! He/She is the ultimate decision maker. If you put a dickhead on a 250 Ninja and throw him out on a canyon road, he'll probably crash.
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Riders fault but also you have to figure it is HARD to be the newbie of the group. No one wants to be last or wants to make the group slow down because of them.

My friends brother in law bought a 97cbr 600 and only had 1day of riding before he went out with our group. Myself and one of our best riders made DAMN sure he was doing ok and not pushing himself or uncomfortable with the roads and bike.
When we ride with people I always tend to stay with the more newbie riders even though I can ride just as hard as my friend on his 750gsxr.

Its a sad story and too bad but almost anyone could see that coming
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post #9 of 18 (permalink) Old 03-20-2001, 12:14 PM
 
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An older 600 to a new GSXR1000 is a huge jump, very dangerous and would require TOTAL CONCENTRATION. I 'm sure the guy was more worried about being bugged about finishing last on the hottest bike, than about riding withing his limits and getting used to the bike.

Sad thing is, there'll be more stories like this, but hopefully not too many about the gsxr1000. Out here the dealers are selling them, but so far only older riders are getting them. One dealer had 3 sold but 2 went to 50 yr olds, and the other to a 30 something year old.

I think the real problem will be the newbies getting a r6, etc and thinking they're on a good beginner's bike. R6's were dropping like flies last year.

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