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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-11-2008, 05:30 AM Thread Starter
 
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Nearly one in 10 Massachusetts State Police officers made more than the governor last year, with 225 officers topping the $140,535 annual salary of the state's chief executive.


Four of the 2,338 state troopers were paid more than $200,000, and 123 others were paid more than $150,000, the salary of the governor's Cabinet secretaries, according to payroll information obtained by the Globe under the state public records law.

The salaries include regular pay, overtime, and State Police detail pay at roadwork sites. Last year, 60 State Police officers earned more than $40,000 working details. Massachusetts is the only state to automatically assign state and local police officers to nearly all road and utility work sites, instead of less expensive civilian flag persons.

The pay totals do not include money earned by officers working construction details paid for by the Massachusetts Turnpike Authority and the Massachusetts Port Authority. Since those are substantial additional sources of income for many State Police troopers, it is likely that many more officers' pay topped $150,000 last year.
Now wasn't someone making the argument that we cannot hold LEO's responsible for their actions because they would all just quit?



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How on God's green earth can you justify a cop making that kind of money?

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Heh, they don't have to!



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How on God's green earth can you justify a cop making that kind of money?
Special crimes units (like the undercover units working to take down the mob) are attached to the Mass state police. Some of these people give up their own lives, literally, just to work doing what they do. I guaran-damn-tee you the ones making this much aren't traffic cops.

If someone were to ask me to lay down my life for my job, you bet your sweet ass I wouldn't do it for $20k a year. No one likes getting stopped by the traffic cops, but you have to look at the bigger picture when you see shit like this pop up.
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I'm with Z here. Those OT include working most or all holidays, which I'd not be giving up for a job, and compared to UAW workers whose lives aren't on the line is on-par numerically. And you can't very well attend an event if you're stuck working traffic or security at that event, so that'd be another crappy position to be in.

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Apparently neither one of you managed to read the article. The big increase in pay comes not from risking their lives battling super villains, but from sitting in front of a road construction zone with their lights on. Besides, isn't there some level of pay between 20k and 150k? You know, reasonable salaries of 40k-50k-60k?

Kanwisch: Having to work on christmas does suck, but there is a reasonable level of compinsation for that sort of thing. Most of the private sector pays 1.5X-3X regular pay. Now add up all the paid holidays in a year (10 according to this) and figure normal schedule of 260 working days (5 days a week for 52 weeks) with an annual salary of 75k (which is pretty damn high), per day pay is $288 with a 3X holiday pay (again, pretty damn nice) yields a bonus of $8,653 for working every single holiday. 9k is nice and all, and boosts the original salary north of 80k, but it doesn't in any way approach 100k-150k.
I don't quiet know how to respond to the argument of "At least they are not as grossly overpaid as UAW employees", except maybe to point out what that compensation did to their employers.



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Apparently neither one of you managed to read the article. The big increase in pay comes not from risking their lives battling super villains, but from sitting in front of a road construction zone with their lights on.


I am sorry to be the one to inform you, but it is not us who failed to read the article.


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The pay totals do not include money earned by officers working construction details paid for by the Massachusetts Turnpike Authority and the Massachusetts Port Authority.
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Sorry Z, Kan. I'm not feeling it. 100K is pretty steep for a state trooper. Anything more than that, especially 150K+, is absolutely ridiculous.

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I am sorry to be the one to inform you, but it is not us who failed to read the article.
Keep reading:

"The pay totals do not include money earned by officers working construction details paid for by the Massachusetts Turnpike Authority and the Massachusetts Port Authority. Since those are substantial additional sources of income for many State Police troopers, it is likely that many more officers' pay topped $150,000 last year."


The figures in the article are based only on money paid directly by the state police. There is additional money not taken into account paid by the two authorities which pushes some of the officers' salaries even higher.


"The salaries include regular pay, overtime, and State Police detail pay at roadwork sites. Last year, 60 State Police officers earned more than $40,000 working details. Massachusetts is the only state to automatically assign state and local police officers to nearly all road and utility work sites, instead of less expensive civilian flag persons."


Not sure how this relates to undercover investigations. Sixty officers made an additional $40k sitting in a car watching a crew pour asphalt.

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Thanks mkeeny, that was what I was about to point out. Sounds like a nice little loophole allowing state employees to pocket a nice chunk of taxpayer money.



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