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Take your guns to work

This is causing an uproar over self-defense vs property rights.

Florida lawmakers pass "take your guns to work" law

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TALLAHASSEE, Florida (Reuters) - Most Florida residents would be allowed to take guns to work under a measure passed by Florida lawmakers on Wednesday.

The bill, allowing workers to keep guns in their cars for self-protection, was approved by the Florida Senate by a vote of 26-13. It now goes to Republican Gov. Charlie Crist to sign into law.

Backed by the National Rifle Association and some labor unions, the so-called "take-your-guns-to-work" measure would prohibit business owners from banning guns kept locked in motor vehicles on their private property.

The measure applies to employees, customers and those invited to the business establishment as long as they have a permit to carry the weapon.

Backers say the measure upholds the vision of the authors of the U.S. Constitution, who made the right to bear arms part of the Bill of Rights.

"The second thing they wrote about in that constitution was the right to bear arms," said Sen. Durell Peaden, a Republican from Crestview, Florida. "It was what was dear in their hearts."

The measure exempts a number of workplaces including nuclear power plants, prisons, schools and companies whose business involves homeland security.

Critics say the measure usurps business owners' rights to determine what happens on their property and puts workers and managers at risk from disgruntled employees.

Dozens of workplace shootings occur every year in the United States and studies have shown that job sites where guns are permitted are more likely to suffer workplace homicides than those where guns are prohibited.

"This is an attempt to trample upon the property rights of property owners and attempt to make it more difficult to protect the workers in a workplace and those who visit our retail establishments," said Sen. Ted Deutch, a Boca Raton Democrat.

Oklahoma, Alaska, Kentucky, and Mississippi have similar laws, although in Oklahoma, an appellate court barred the state from enforcing the legislation on grounds that it was unconstitutional.

Florida business groups are urging the governor to veto the measure, saying owners should be allowed to determine what happens on their property.

"We are disappointed that politics clearly won over good policy," Mark Wilson, president and chief executive of the Florida Chamber of Commerce, said in a statement.

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I never saw why business owners would even care.


Oh well... I carry to work. It's encouraged where I work.
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I never saw why business owners would even care.
Bleeding-heart liberals. Seriously, I think it's probably liability that's a concern. Among other things of course.

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No surprise

Oh wow... I hadn't noticed I never got around to changing that. I haven't been at that job for two years now! lol.

I am a Courier, and I carry meds at night. (Narcotics and scheduled meds included).
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I didn't know people weren't allowed to leave a gun in their car at work. When I'm at work I ride around with a loaded silenced pistol.

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I didn't know people weren't allowed to leave a gun in their car at work. When I'm at work I ride around with a loaded silenced pistol.

Silenced or Suppressed?

If you have a silenced pistol... no big deal. That means its either fake or a very low powered air gun. Suppressors don't 'silence' firearms... they just minimize muzzle report. A suppressed .223 still has about the same (Maybe slightly louder) report as a 22LR.

If you are riding around with a suppressed firearm, I'd be quite intrigued to know what you do for work.
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WTF? Its not the bring your gun to work law (which I could see debating) its the leave your gun in your car law.

If some phycho is so determined to take work personally that he will take his own firearm to shoot peopl with (which could happen I suppose) he will just as soon go home to get it, or bring it with him the next day.



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Silenced or Suppressed?

If you have a silenced pistol... no big deal. That means its either fake or a very low powered air gun. Suppressors don't 'silence' firearms... they just minimize muzzle report. A suppressed .223 still has about the same (Maybe slightly louder) report as a 22LR.

If you are riding around with a suppressed firearm, I'd be quite intrigued to know what you do for work.
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Silenced .22 pistol
I also have a suppressed .223 and .22-250 in my basement.

Believe me, I know the difference.

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Silenced .22 pistol
I also have a suppressed .223 and .22-250 in my basement.

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lol I'll buy that. Suppressed 22LRs sound amazing. Subsonic ammo and all you can hear is the bolt snapping shut.
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