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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 06-15-2006, 12:36 PM Thread Starter
 
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Boy, the BS is flowing this week.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/06/15/scotus.search.ap/

Um, I didn't know they were cops, I thought they were Burglars, so I blew every one away
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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 06-15-2006, 12:39 PM
 
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bah, CNN and their bush bashing. What the court ruled on, was that if police barge in without a warning (or in the case with only a few seconds warning), but with a warrant, it is not enough to get the evidence dismissed.

"Yeah, I had some coke and a few guns, but since they didnt knock no one can punish me for it"



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Which only tells them they don't have to.
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You know the problem here is that there will be abuses made on the part of the PD. There WILL be innocent people barged in upon. I realize that this may be a necessary ruling and I understand why, but I am afraid that too many times it will be put to bad use.
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I'd see your point, if it wasnt for the warrant requirment.



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I'd see your point, if it wasnt for the warrant requirment.
Cause warrants are always accurate, and never have, let's say, the wrong address or something on them
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you're right, the risk of a wrong adress being busted is well worth letting all sorts of people walk free.


Its like the miranda rights bullshit. cant arrest people unless you tell them they can remain silent...



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you're right, the risk of a wrong adress being busted is well worth letting all sorts of people walk free.


Its like the miranda rights bullshit. cant arrest people unless you tell them they can remain silent...
I agree with the problem, I don't agree with the solution.
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I think you are over simplifying things, or at least, I hope so. Just because the evidence is admisable, does not mean that the cops are free to bust in. After all there are still other punishments for violating policy, that dont involve letting criminals walk free. Its up to the departments to write comprehensive policies to cover that.

After all, how often would barging into a place without knocking be a usefull tactic? Sure, in some cases, but I'm sure the officers are well aware of the risk of getting shot.



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Case in point

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you're right, the risk of a wrong adress being busted is well worth letting all sorts of people walk free.
Several years ago this very situation happened in Denver. Somehow, Denver PD has been able to conduct "no-knock" raids for quite some time. In this case, they DID have the wrong address, busted into the house of an innocent man (father of 9) and shot him to death after he drew a weapon.

http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/...shooting.shtml

How many of you can claim that you wouldn't do exactly the same thing? If someone comes breaking into my house in the middle of the night, you can damn well bet that my very first reaction will be to go for my gun and protect my family.

Incidentally, the Chief of Police ended up resigning over the fallout and the city settled out of court with the slain man's family for a very tidy sum.

In my opinion, this ruling is bound to create more situations just like this one. More importantly, on principle, it further erodes the personal freedoms on which our country and way of life are founded.

"I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations. "
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