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Question Two-stroke trackbike???

What are the pros and cons of a two-stroke trackbike like an RS125 or 250?

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Does anybody out there race two-strokes?

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Two stroke race bikes are fast. They are also high maintenance. Pistons at least, total rebuilds not uncommon. I don't have one nor will I based on observations of those who run them but they are fast and fun according to those who ride them.

To me, a track day bike is for fun. Less maintenance and lower cost equals more fun. The cost for track time, tires, etc. is quite enough, thank-you. I also feel that working what you've got to its max is the challenge and fun so the final speed is relative. No matter what you're on, you have to judge what it will take and getting the most out of whatever I'm on satisfies that challenge for me. I don't know if others would agree, but it works for me.

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Two stroke race bikes are fast. They are also high maintenance. Pistons at least, total rebuilds not uncommon. I don't have one nor will I based on observations of those who run them but they are fast and fun according to those who ride them.

To me, a track day bike is for fun. Less maintenance and lower cost equals more fun. The cost for track time, tires, etc. is quite enough, thank-you. I also feel that working what you've got to its max is the challenge and fun so the final speed is relative. No matter what you're on, you have to judge what it will take and getting the most out of whatever I'm on satisfies that challenge for me. I don't know if others would agree, but it works for me.

The maintenance factor is the biggest deterent to me getting a 2-stroke bike for the track. I would love to have one just for the fun and education it affords, but I just can't get past the expenses. Not to mention, the cost of an RS125 or RS250 is equal to or greater than a 600 track bike.

As for the maintenance, I'm curious to hear from somebody who has one how often they have to rebuild the engine and how much work it is. Is it worth buying a mid-'90s RS125 for a few track days here and there?

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Maintenance is the big thing. When they are tuned correctly, they are like heaven. Tuning a 2-stroke is more voodoo than anything else.

The other drawback is that they are illegal on the roads in the US and I'm weak. I'd have to take it out for a ride.
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Maintenance is the big thing. When they are tuned correctly, they are like heaven. Tuning a 2-stroke is more voodoo than anything else.

The other drawback is that they are illegal on the roads in the US and I'm weak. I'd have to take it out for a ride.

I'm reminded of a saying I heard once... "Two-stroke racers are mechanics first, riders second."

It's a shame they're so much work 'cause they're sooo much fun to ride and they're a great learning tool! I'm just wondering if I would regret getting a used RS125 for a trackday "toy?"

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Talk to the guys at www.mototek.com they`re the biggest Aprilia tuners/runners in the states, they also sell the bikes, and all kinds of aftermarket for them. Also, I can`t see you getting a 125 unless you have the cash to have it shipped here, since thats the only way you`ll get it (unless you can find one on ebay). The 50 and 250 are the only small bikes they sent to the states.

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Talk to the guys at www.mototek.com they`re the biggest Aprilia tuners/runners in the states, they also sell the bikes, and all kinds of aftermarket for them. Also, I can`t see you getting a 125 unless you have the cash to have it shipped here, since thats the only way you`ll get it (unless you can find one on ebay). The 50 and 250 are the only small bikes they sent to the states.
I can barely afford an Aprilia hat... I would get the Honda 125 if anything.

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I can barely afford an Aprilia hat... I would get the Honda 125 if anything.
Isn`t that the NSR? (you asked about the RS125 and 250 in the first post, so I assumed aprilia)

Anyways, you could still talk to the guys at mototek, since they race 250s, I`m sure they could give you some insight on what maintence is to be expected, and you`re not going to run them anywhere near as hard as them I wouldn`t suppose, so it shouldn`t be as severe as what they do. I think I`ve read about guys who race their 250s replacing top ends like every 3-500 miles, can`t remember exact milage though.

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lots of 125's out there.

check out www.rscycles.com www.snarlsport.com www.gpstar.net etc.

btw, honda and aprilia make rs-series of two strokes. hell, aprilia makes two different series of rs's (the street ones (cup bikes here) and the real ones).

cup bikes are reasonably inexpensive two strokes. you can also go retro and get an rz350. gs500rider has a friend who's selling his rz. the problem is the tz250 that calls to me is VERY expensive.

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