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post #11 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-12-2002, 01:00 AM
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Absolutely no offense taken. It is a "sled" by most sportbike definitions because of it's weight, but a nimble one in my opinion. For that matter, the ZX-11 is a sled too for the same reasons. The main attraction to me of this class of bike is the all day rideability. I regularly do 300 to 400 mile day rides and have ridden 800 in one day on it and could have done more. As far as keeping up, I have yet to have a problem with that. It pulls strong through about 125 then starts settling down, topping out around 155 or 160 indicated. BTW, mine is totally stock with the only mod being shimming the carb needles .017" for mid range improvement but especially for improved exhaust valve life over the long haul. The reason for .017" is because it's what I had. It's common to shoot for about .020" for this purpose. The only service issue I am aware of on these is cam chain tensioners can act up anytime after about 25,000 miles. They will rattle when cold, then quiet down when warmed up. I did one at about 34,000 miles. I am now doing steering head bearings which have notched, and I did have a water pump go at about 27,000 miles. The water pumps aren't a regular problem to my knowledge, just one of those things. Other than that, I do a very thorough regular maintenance each winter which includes changing all of the fluids, cleaning and lubing all of the control pivots, the throttle barrel, etc. and replacing small things I notice while doing this. An example that comes to mind is the clutch piston dust boot which had a small split once. That's pretty much it. I would buy another one in a heartbeat if I could find one like I got this time.

If you want to see a video of this bike at Deal's Gap there is a ten minute one on one of the moderator's web sites. It will give you an idea of how this bike is ridden regularly. The video is from a camera mounted on RRDON's 900 RR, ridden by Tristan, another rider from this site, following my bike. Good Luck.

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IMHO the CBR1000's most inexcusable problem for a tourer is its p*ss poor, 125-140ml, tank range. Two guys I know get similar range which is a pain in the *ss if you ride with them.

If I fill mine, which isn't often due to weight, I can get over 200 miles which is just into reserve. It holds 5.8 gallons. If they are reading the gas gauge as their indication, it will read empty about 50 miles BEFORE to go on reserve, which is supposed to be .7 but on mine is closer to a gallon. See what they put in when they think it's empty. About the only time I fill it is if I'm cruising the interstate for a distance where the mileage is also optimal, about 43 MPG.

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post #13 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-12-2002, 06:49 AM
 
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CBR 1000

First of all i am not going to get into the stupid "my bike is great yours is crap stuff". i can only speak from my own opinions on the CBR 1000 F that i own and have ridden for many wonderful miles. as far as quality goes it is a honda, it in my opinion is of the highest quality. dependable? if a honda will not start it is out of gas. speaking of out of gas, it does enjoy drinking gas but it has never been a problem for me. smoooooooth comfortable, and fast, yes fast. no, it is not gsxr 1000 etc. fast, but it is as fast as is usable in sane street conditions. it is one of several sport bikes i have to ride and is the one i always go to. i do however have a new RC-51 due to arrive soon. i do not know if i will sell the CBR but if i want to my riding buddy has already said he will take it. YOU are all about to ask "if the CBR is so great why an RC-51?????????????? well i have been fighting the urge to get one for a while, but i am a weak weak man and i must do what i must do. if you want a bike to go out and get stupid on do not get a CBR 1000, if you want to go out and really ride, for as long and far as you want, DO, BY ALL MEANS get one, as far as the kawasaki, never ridden one, do not know if it is better or not.
by the way the only thing i have used the tool kit for is to occasionaly adjust chain, and to loan tools to others.

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post #14 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-12-2002, 09:02 AM Thread Starter
 
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reply to the CBr 1000 guys.

Ok your making the choice harder for me. I have until this friday to make up my mind as to if I`ll buy the CBR or not. It really is in great shape. And it does feel comfortable. My only concern was being left way behind in town or our sunday rides. I understand that only ZX12,s,GXR 1300r`s, and GXR1000`s are always at the front of the pack. I was just hoping to move up to mid pack. Have the ablilty to hang with the group on them speed burst. While maintaining the ability to ride for 300 miles in a day. Which I do on my cruiser all the time. Well mabye a ride on it friday help me make up my mind. I do thank all the people that have helped me.

This is a great site.

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post #15 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-12-2002, 09:53 AM
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If you're so concerned about numbers, just buy a Hayabusa and get them all out of the way. You'll never have to worry about terms such as "not fast enough" and "not quick enough" ever again.

I think this is a classic case of too much emphasis on the bike, and not enough on the rider. Just owning a particular bike will not garauntee you a certain position in the pack, that's mostly rider ability...not what bike you ride.

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post #16 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-12-2002, 10:26 AM
 
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CBR SLOW

BRAVO!!!! UFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I could not have said it better myself actually if you have read my last reply you already know i tried and was not able to say it better myself. a bike has two wheels and a motor a rider is much more important. if you are a person that can leave the ego at home try riding XR100's with those that have mastered them, this type of riding truly puts all the importance on the rider not the bike. ufo put it into the correct perspective. if you suck in the corners all the horsepower in the world is not going to help you, it will just make it that much more difficult to identify the remains, however if you are skilled you can get a bike with a lot less h.p. around a corner very quickly.
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post #17 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-12-2002, 01:31 PM
 
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Well at least you have 3 days to decide. UFO did make a valid point rider does play a huge role in where you sit in the pack. And granted a ZX12 will pass an R6 in a straight run, but it won't blow past it like it was standing still (there's only about one second difference in 1/4 mile times). Bikes are getting so close nowadays performance wise it's coming down more and more to the rider. So my advice is buy the bike YOU like the most, in this case the pros and cons for each bike you're looking at pretty much weigh out even and don't leave any an all out winner. My .02 is to buy it and save up a couple hundred dollars and take an advanced street riders course at a racetrack (most of the schools follow the racing circuit if there's an AMA track near your place). The best way to improve your position in the pack is to become a better rider. You can have a bike with 200 rear wheel horsepower but it don't mean shi* if you can't put it to the ground you know? I plan on taking the Fasttrax course this year in Ohio, and hopefully doin a couple track days. Anyway, if it were me and I had to pick one of the three it would probably be the ZX-11 just my opinion though.
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Good points

Thanks for the Valid points. I understand driver skill. That is why no matter what I try not to push my self too much. I am thinking about going to a riding course held at Road atlanta. I have already been to one course and learned alot.

For me its not about being the fastest bike. If that were the case I would buy t Busa or ZX12r and be done with it. But thats the easy way out. Mabye yall didnt see but I had a 99 Katana 750. I got rid of it because I didnt like it. I didnt like that it wasnt faster then my XS1100. I know there are more things to riding then speed. However lets be honest, you at least want to be able to keep up. Thats all I was looking to do. Think about the last time you rode with your crew. Isnt it better to be at the back of the pack because you choose to be there. Insted of being at the back because thats all you can do.

I think I may just keep an eye out for a descent ZX11. I know they are heavy and not the best handlers around. It is however a good comporise between both worlds.

P. S: I guess I must be the only person to buy a bike and then quickly out grow it. Or how about the people that just buy too damn much bike. We had a 99 Black Bird for sale here with only 1200 miles. the guy wanted out of it because it was just too much bike for him. It didnt help that he short and thin.

All I`m trying to do it make a good fit. So I can truly enjoy the bike for some time to come.

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post #19 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-12-2002, 02:08 PM
 
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cbr 1000

funny you should mention the bike being too much for the rider. the guy i bought the CBR 1000 from was about 5foot 3 maybe 125 pounds soaking wet, i was surprised the guy could even move the bike, lets face it i love the bike but when it is being pushed in the garage it is about as nimble as a walrus on the beach.
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post #20 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-12-2002, 02:12 PM
 
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I noticed that stuff and figured you were a pretty solid rider. I was just sayin is all. And I know what you mean about outgrowing a bike fast. I put like 9,000 miles on my old F2 last year and I could run with almost anyone out in the twisties. But it got pretty goddamn old when everyone would leave me when the road straightened out and the F2 didn't have the power to keep up. Ground clearance also became an issue because it was constantly dragging peg. Before I bought my R6 I was contemplating the R1, obviously I ended up with the 6. And looking back on it I'm glad I did. I couldn't ask for anything more from it (a steering damper would have been nice though). But i see where you're coming from, it's that point where you know you're not using 100% of the bike you're on, but you're pretty confident and fast on it, just sick of getting left behind due to lack of power. The cure for that problem is a ZX11. lol
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