i got the seat shaved and took out about 1 1/2 inch. i still cannot flat-foot it but i like it better this way. i tried it lowered with the links but didnt have much clearance on bumps and humps on the road so i brought it back to the stock height and shaved the seat instead. this is so much better. thanks for the advise guys. by the way, i'm 5'5" with a 30" inseam so the seat height was almost 3 inches higher than my inseam.