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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old 12-14-2001, 04:09 PM Thread Starter
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Question New Bike Options

I was just thinking..why is it that motorcycles, unlike cages, aren't available with a bunch of options...like..a 600 GSXR with Inverted forks, and a beefed up swingarm like the 750's have, or a brake up grade. It seems that they offer the 600 as an entry level bike, and don't include these items that come standard on the 750 and 1000. I know the honchos belive that by doing this more people will buy the higher priced 750/1000, but I wonder..would there be a market for an upgraded 600..

What do folks think...I think there would be an increase in 600 sales with options such as these..

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Does a 600cc bike *need* a braced swingarm? The R6 has one, but none of the others do, as far as I know.

As for the inverted forks, maybe they were a necessity on yester-year's heavier liter-class bikes due to their increased rigidity? But, now that the liter bikes are damn-near as light as the 600's, is a real need for them? I don't recall seeing the factory 600 racebikes sporting inverted forks.

I dunno, just thinking out loud.
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I don't recall seeing the factory 600 racebikes sporting inverted forks.
That's because they are probably required by the rulebook to use the same configuration as the streetbikes they use for homologation. Therefore, if the company decides to use RSU (right-side-up) forks for reasons such as cost competitiveness in their streetbikes, they must use them for the race bikes also. I think fork internals can be significantly altered, however.

I agree that most streetbikes probably don't need USD (upside-down) forks, especially given the way they're normally ridden.

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I think the options for a bike are more of a logistics issue. I really don't have any idea of the volume of bikes that get sold, or the difference in cost. If they sold as many 600s as say honda sells civics then the volume would be high enough to put more effort, and money, into options. I just think that it would be too much of a pain for what they are making, as far as money, on 600s.

Of course, that's just a thought and maybe not a very good one.
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Does a 600cc bike *need* a braced swingarm? The R6 has one, but none of the others do, as far as I know.

As for the inverted forks, maybe they were a necessity on yester-year's heavier liter-class bikes due to their increased rigidity? But, now that the liter bikes are damn-near as light as the 600's, is a real need for them? I don't recall seeing the factory 600 racebikes sporting inverted forks.

I dunno, just thinking out loud.

Is there any difference in handling or feel with a braced swing arm? My 2001 don't have it but the 2002 does. I understand it strengthens it, but why do you need it?

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Is there any difference in handling or feel with a braced swing arm? My 2001 don't have it but the 2002 does. I understand it strengthens it, but why do you need it?
Added strength and stiffness is why it is there. Your 9R doesn't have it, but it does have a ladder-type internal construction, negating the need for a brace. The ZX12R uses the same type of swingarm. I suspect that you'd have to be an "Eric Bostrom" to notice the difference.
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...I suspect that you'd have to be an "Eric Bostrom" to notice the difference...
This is Eric here What are you guys talking about?

Honestly I dont even know what is an upside down fork

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