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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 05-17-2002, 08:55 AM Thread Starter
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RC51 Single Pipe

Doen anyone offer a single pipe for the RC51? I thought I saw one on a racebike. Probably a custom mod?

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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 05-17-2002, 10:27 AM
 
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Erion Racing has one available & Jardine has one in pre-production.

Arrow also has one coming soon.

So far the Erion is producing dismal power curves & Jardine is claiming problems with the mid-range, Arrow's dyno charts for their 2-1 are only a tad bit better than their charts for their 2-2 slip-ons which are the worst of the dyno numbers of the major exhaust manufacturers, but the posers are willing to pay big bucks to be like Colin & Nicky so the companies are more than willing to accomodate the cash flow...
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Hey Cafe you wouldn't really consider taking off those limited edition Moriwaki's would you? That would almost be a crime!!!!
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Re: RC51 Single Pipe

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I thought I saw one on a racebike. Probably a custom mod?

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post #6 of 12 (permalink) Old 06-04-2002, 12:36 PM
 
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Yes you are correct. The AMA Honda team of Hayden and Duhamel currently run single Jardine pipes on their RC51 as well as the Castrol Honda team of Akrapovic armed WSB Colin Edwards. The Castrol Honda team stated that with one pipe it made more power. Interesting in that the Castrol team runs Akrapovic pipes and the AMA Honda team runs Jardine. HMMM.... What makes them more interesting is not only are they are single pipes, but that they are located on the left side of the bike rather than on the right side for single can. Makes for an interesting looking bike. But as they say, if consumers want the look of a race bike, somone will make it and someone will pony up to get it.

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No, the Castrol Honda team more to the point Colin Edwards stated it made "better" mid-range power not "more".

By adding the extra length of tubing they can tune the gas flow & reversion waves & take the hit out of the mid-range which reduces the jerk of the power coming on so strong & the mid-range becomes more manageable. It's all about controlling the existing power not making more of it.

Also the head pipes on both the World Superbike & the AMA Superbike teams are made by HRC only the cannisters themselves are made by Akra or Jardine (to HRC specs) & the reason for that is because they go through so many cannisters that it only makes sense for an outside company to maintain production of them instead of HRC trying to hand build all of them as they are basically disposable pieces anyway. BTW last year the AMA Superbikes were running Akra cannisters with Jardine badges placed on them...
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No, the Castrol Honda team more to the point Colin Edwards stated it made "better" mid-range power not "more".

By adding the extra length of tubing they can tune the gas flow & reversion waves & take the hit out of the mid-range which reduces the jerk of the power coming on so strong & the mid-range becomes more manageable. It's all about controlling the existing power not making more of it.
Jerking power on a RC51? What do you mean by that? The V-twin is a very consistant power.
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Jerking power on a RC51? What do you mean by that? The V-twin is a very consistant power.

Not to offend, but it is quite evident you don't know much about Superbikes or race motors. The V-twin superbikes don't share one single part of the streetbikes we can buy (other than the frame & that is not really true either since the frame is so heavily braced) They make 180-190hp & that power comes on like a light switch in a couple different places along the rev range with increasing intensity & the true topend power only in the last 1500-2000rpms of the rev range. Due to the cam phasing they have very little power available in the lower rev range so when the power does come on it comes on very abruptly & unsettles the bikes suspension.

When you are at max lean on the very edge of your tires the last thing you need is a hit of power breaking loose the rear wheel as the bike comes up on the cams so they alter the exhaust to tune & tame the hit of power.

It would be the equivalent of your F4i having the power of a 250 until about 10,000rpm then all the sudden getting an instant hit of the power of 400cc's until 13,000rpm where you get the full power of the bike. The main difference is with 190hp on tap the power is alot harder to control when it comes on in different stages.
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I enjoy reading your contributions to this site, you are obviously well informed, and as a result your opinions are a pleasure to read, also you seem quite in the know about twins which hold a special place in my heart, keep it up, it is a refreshing change to the old "my bike can smoke your bike" stuff.




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