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You vs. Tractor Trailer..?

Okay, don't rip into me for this one. I just have to ask...

I live in an area with A LOT of big trucks with drivers that just push their way around traffic. Yesterday I was cut off by a semi and I am wondering what the best course of action is for this situation. I really wanted to swerve around him and go on about my way (he was not fully into the road yet). But I was good and sloooooooowed down, waited (ten minutes) for him to get that thing into the road and crawled behind him the rest of the way. While I am trying not to 'get dead' out there I'm not sure where to draw the line between being cautious and being too cautious...
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Okay, don't rip into me for this one. I just have to ask...

I live in an area with A LOT of big trucks with drivers that just push their way around traffic. Yesterday I was cut off by a semi and I am wondering what the best course of action is for this situation. I really wanted to swerve around him and go on about my way (he was not fully into the road yet). But I was good and sloooooooowed down, waited (ten minutes) for him to get that thing into the road and crawled behind him the rest of the way. While I am trying not to 'get dead' out there I'm not sure where to draw the line between being cautious and being too cautious...
Rule of thumb: The vehicle with the biggest (or most) tires has the right-of-way. If it's clear to go around them, you can do that, but what you did was the smartest choice.

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Rule of thumb: The vehicle with the biggest (or most) tires has the right-of-way. If it's clear to go around them, you can do that, but what you did was the smartest choice.
Damn smart choices always squashing the fun. You wouldn't think New York would have so many big trucks... I may have to start riding on the sidewalk.

I actually had some jerkoff in a van try and 'race' me yesterday too. His POS sounded like it was going to blow up. I almost died laughing when I went ripping by him (in 2nd gear)...
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<snip> I'm not sure where to draw the line between being cautious and being too cautious...
No such thing as too cautious.

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Alright, one more question (if anyone's alive this week)...

Doing 'The Box' in the BRC has left me with a little more confusion then I had hoped for. They had us on these little rebel 250's cranking the bars almost full lock to make the figure eight. But I can't turn the bars that much on my bike can I? I was under the impression that the turning is sharper on sportbikes... I wanted to try out everything from the class on my bike (due to the huge difference between the two) but I'm not trying to drop it. How far is too far?
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Alright, one more question (if anyone's alive this week)...

Doing 'The Box' in the BRC has left me with a little more confusion then I had hoped for. They had us on these little rebel 250's cranking the bars almost full lock to make the figure eight. But I can't turn the bars that much on my bike can I? I was under the impression that the turning is sharper on sportbikes... I wanted to try out everything from the class on my bike (due to the huge difference between the two) but I'm not trying to drop it. How far is too far?
First most semi drivers are biker friendly, not sure of your scenario but most semi drivers look out for bikes and try to give the bike room to do whatever...that is so long as you don't act like a typical idiot cager (cutting them off 3 feet in front of them and/or cutting them off and then braking to a crawl/halt, or stuff like that)

As far as the "box", there's no reason why you can't do it on ANY bike at full lock...the locks were put there to prevent you from going too sharp, so yes you can do the maneuver at full lock. Just like the BRC it takes practice though. If you have doubts I suggest you watch this video. The bike he does it on weighs 850 or so lbs. In real on street riding though you rarely will go full lock since there will usually be room to do it at less than full, that and as your instructors have probably said there are many riders who are afraid to slow-ride
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[QUOTE=Catback;649943]...most semi drivers look out for bikes and try to give the bike room to do whatever...QUOTE]
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I regularly have trucks move over (ride the shoulder) to let me past. Be nice to them, they're (generally) nice to you.




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As far as the "box", there's no reason why you can't do it on ANY bike at full lock...the locks were put there to prevent you from going too sharp, so yes you can do the maneuver at full lock. Just like the BRC it takes practice though. If you have doubts I suggest you watch this video. The bike he does it on weighs 850 or so lbs. In real on street riding though you rarely will go full lock since there will usually be room to do it at less than full, that and as your instructors have probably said there are many riders who are afraid to slow-ride
I was one of them (afraid to slow ride). Parking lots gave me nightmares... The class totally got me over that though (very quickly too). I'm basically a completely different person on my bike now. But I had always wondered why the bars were made to turn so much, when you aren't supposed to turn them that far anyway. I suppose I was misinformed though... Thanks for the video
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i know someone who hit a semi, probably different 'scene' but . . . totaled bike and has exponentially-worse* short-term memory loss
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But I had always wondered why the bars were made to turn so much, when you aren't supposed to turn them that far anyway. I suppose I was misinformed though...
I don't really go to the locks in daily riding, except in parking lots. But I can say that maneuvering the bike around the garage is already a pain in the neck, so I can only guess what it would be like with an even wider turning radius (picture Austin Powers wedged in a hallway on a golf cart).

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