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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-14-2007, 02:49 PM Thread Starter
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I recently got a tank cam mount from e-bay and was hoping to catch some footage of myself hitting up some twisties. I want to show a few friends that are interested in getting sportbikes that you can have just as much fun with both wheels on the pavement as you can stunting. However, the footage that I've gotten so far is not very convincing. I consider myself to be at about 75% when it comes to twisties (that's where I spend most of my riding time, and I've only found 2 other people that can hang with me so far). Even when I'm carving through some s-turns at 60mph, the video makes it look like I'm on a Sunday drive doing about 30. You can see the lean angle, but the sensation of speed isn't there. I had to double check to make sure that my speedo wasn't in kph. Anybody know any tricks on how you can capture the sensation of speed with a tank cam?

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Is your camera also recording the engine noise? I would think that if you could add some high rev engine volume to the video that could help. Getting a camera mounted lower to the ground will help to provide a point of reference.

Or you could just go faster
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Try getting an external lens (which is no more than a camera lens with a wire that hooks up to your camera) and mount it on the side fairing or under your front fairing. Having less fixed items in the frame of the camera will give viewers a much bigger suspense factor. The eye tends to stay on fixed items.
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...Or you could just go faster
ROFLMAO!!




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Is your camera also recording the engine noise? I would think that if you could add some high rev engine volume to the video that could help. Getting a camera mounted lower to the ground will help to provide a point of reference.

Or you could just go faster
Yeah, it catches the noise pretty good.

150 looked like 75.

JBaz. I might try your idea. I've been kicking around the idea of a helmet cam, so we'll see.

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Yeah, I know what you mean- Camera footage never looks nearly as dramatic as the real thing. It's very frustrating. I was following my best friend up in the canyons with a tank cam and captured him saving himself from an amazing 75 mph high-side. And even THAT wasn't as dramatic on film as you would have expected!

One thing that helps on this- I set up my tank cam to look through the fairing windscreen but position it to keep the speedometer and tachometer visible at the bottom of the screen. Everyone can clearly see the speed and rpm you're doing.

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...I've been kicking around the idea of a helmet cam...
I don't like helmet cam shots; too much movng around.




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Hey Snakesht,

You're half way to a great video. Here's how you make it exciting. Pick the twisty route you want to run. Run the route with your camera mounted on the tank. Now run the exact same route 4 more times with the camera mounted in these positions on your bike:

Run 2: Left passenger peg.

Run 3: Right passenger peg.

Run 4: Left passenger peg facing rearward.

Run 5: Right passenger peg facing rearward.

If you can borrow a friends helmet cam or something that would be great additional footage too. I have a samsung sports cam that does pretty well - even comes with a external lens. Get some footage of the rear wheel in motion accelarating and slowing down. Be creative and have fun with your shots.

Now that you have your footage (I'll just assume you've got a cam that shoots to a hard drive rather than a tape) import it into a non-linear editing program like Sony Vegas, Movie Maker, Premier, etc. any will do really.

Lay each run you recorded into a layer on the timeline. Once you lay all the different runs into their own layers on the timeline you can sync them up and begin to cut between the different runs you recorded. Once you've cut between camera angles you'll have what appears to be one moment in time captured from multiple angles all at once. To make it exciting cut fairly quickly and pick a really good soundbed.

Mix it up and have fun - you'll have a kick ass video for your friends and for us of course.

Good luck with the video and let us post a link for us to watch when you're done.

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threemo's got it down. I'm planning on grabbing an HD cam and getting a bunch of video at different angles to edit in Final Cut Pro into a schweet movie.

Its better to have someone very skilled with a camera waiting for you to go by at a curve and its 2x better to go riding with someone with a similar camera rig.

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