yeah that's true, that's always in the back of my mind, what if there's some gravel or junk in the road. And my bike is a standard so i don't think it's set up for such aggresive leans. I guess it's risk versus satisfaction. Gotta find the fine line. I don't wanna ride like some grandpa on a crusier who isn't even up to counter steer speed, but at the same time if something jumps out in front of me in that turn, there's no way i can stop without going wide or laying down the bike. You've got a point smitty, I guess riding a bike will always just be more dangerous than a car due to the all the different phsyics involved.