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post #1 of 52 (permalink) Old 02-06-2006, 06:31 PM Thread Starter
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Troops Returning From War Zones Dying On Motorcycles

POSTED: 7:52 pm EST February 6, 2006
UPDATED: 7:52 pm EST February 6, 2006

CAMP LEJEUNE, N.C. -- More troops have died in off-duty motorcycle accidents since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, than have been killed in combat in Afghanistan over that same time, according to safety records.

Military commanders in North Carolina say the deaths are largely the result of boredom, bonus pay, and adrenalin to burn off after troops return from wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Nearly 350 troops have died on bikes since the 2001 terrorist attacks. That's compared to 259 killed while serving in Afghanistan.

Nearly 1,000 more troops have been injured on bikes.

Marine Lance Cpl. Mark Strickland, 24, was one of five Marines from Camp Lejeune who were involved in serious motorcycle crashes in October. Four of them had been home just a few weeks from combat in Iraq's deadly Anbar Province. Three of the Marines were killed and another lost a leg.

"When the doctor told me that he was dead, I told him that wasn't acceptable, it just wasn't acceptable," said Andrea Strickland, 22, the widow of Mark Strickland. "I said, 'He just got back from a war zone, and you're going to tell me that he died doing something he loved?' "

The problem could get worse as some 20,000 Marines and sailors begin returning to bases in North Carolina over the coming weeks.

"Our goal is not to see the same thing happen," said Lt. Gen. James F. Amos, commander of the Camp Lejeune-based II Marine Expeditionary Force.

Amos described the crashes in October as "a cold shot to the heart" and ordered a crackdown. The following month normal base operations were halted to focus on safety, particularly for motorcyclists.

Camp Lejeune also added safety programs and re-emphasized existing ones. These include a mentor program Amos created that's being considered as a model for the entire Marine Corps.

The Army hasn't been immune to off-duty motorcycle deaths, with more than 40 in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30. The Army chief of staff issued a memo in December that urge experienced riders to cut the accident rate by mentoring beginners.

The military has enough of a challenge maintaining a force that repeated deployments have left severely stretched, according to two reports released last month _ one commissioned by the Pentagon, the other by Congressional Democrats.

In response to the motorcycle injuries, Maj. Gen. Robert C. Dickerson Jr., who oversees most of the Marine Corps' East Coast facilities, has visited area motorcycle dealers and asked them to pass out Corps-funded $100 vouchers to Marine customers for the safety classes.

"I've owned three motorcycles, and they're a lot of fun, but you've got to be careful," Dickerson said. He says the Marines need risk-takers but it's crucial to draw a line between courage and recklessness.

Troops say the bikes fill the adrenalin void they left behind in the war zone.

"Riders who have been in accidents have told us that it's the legal crack cocaine," said J.T. Coleman, a civilian spokesman for the Army's Combat Readiness Center in Fort Rucker, Ala., which tracks accidents among soldiers. "They say it gives them the same adrenaline rush they get driving their tank through Baghdad or whatever."
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I wonder if the military will attempt to ban service personell from riding? Aside from the terrible waste of human lives, it must be an expensive exercise for the military, training new personell to fill the roles left vacant.

I can understand returned soldiers needing to fill their lives with something that brings them the same rush. Better than turning to drugs.

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<--- guilty as charged. as a soldier who rides, its' true. Lots of young soldiers returning with huge balances in thier bank accounts.. what do they do? But the nicest, fastest thing they can get thier hands on. A sportbike. Problem is, it's bought on a whim, without any thought, and very little experience. You can't stop the soldiers from doing it... but perhaps madatory MSC and so on for soldiers on post. Maybe offer it for free to soldiers. Just a thought.
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post #4 of 52 (permalink) Old 02-06-2006, 09:46 PM Thread Starter
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well they are talking about 100 dollar reimbersment for taking the safety course.
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post #5 of 52 (permalink) Old 02-06-2006, 10:07 PM
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well they are talking about 100 dollar reimbersment for taking the safety course.
Here at Ft Bliss the course is mandatory and paid for by the installation. Just a little push and the command should go for it there to.

We have the same problem here too. Never been on a bike and they want to get the biggest/fastest bike around, and you damn sure can't get them to listen to any advice.

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they are set in their ways, and I'm not going to fight a military guy. Although, because they do wreck new bikes, easy to find decent shaped salvage bikes. Not trying to give ill will to anyone... just stating a fact.

Also, even after taking the safety course does not always guarantee that they'll ride safe or have the experience to ride correctly and adapt to different situations such as cars cutting you off or a wild animal crossing in front of you.
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Maybe they should just invest in some tracks on or near major bases and encourage use of them.

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there are a few guys in my unit fascinated by my bike that they went out and bought the biggest and baddest they could afford, despite their riding ability.

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My roommate is ex-army, and they had him do some pretty intense training just so he could ride on base. I'm not sure if that is an army thing, or just that korean base...

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post #10 of 52 (permalink) Old 02-07-2006, 01:36 PM Thread Starter
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What would be cool if when they close pope airforce base, but instead of giving it to another military branch, turn it into a stunting place / motorcycle track. Oh wellz.. its just a dream.
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