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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 02-01-2006, 02:04 PM Thread Starter
 
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1000 CC too much?

Normally I would say more power the better... I'm not sure in this case. I am looking to get a R1 soon. I have experience ect... So my question is this: if i come out of a turn or take off from a red light ect... how hard/ easy is it to wheelie. I don't want to be wheeling by accident, on purpose is a different story. I am used to being able to twist the trottle all the way when taking off the line (I realise I wont be able to do this). Everyine talks about doing wheelies, I just don't want to do them all the time. Basically I am just curios on just how hard/ easy it is too wheelie by accident.
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post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old 02-01-2006, 02:08 PM
 
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Just by asking the question - you do not need an R1.

"How hard/easy is it to wheelie by accident?"

Read that back to yourself a few times real slow...

Wow, I'm in total amazment...





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mine comes up at 8k rpm all on its own.
What kind of expirience do you have? I wouldnt recomment any supersport including the 600's as a first bike.

They also flip over from the front brake...



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You don't want to wheelie by accident? I wheelied my F3 by accident coming out of a corner once.. I don't think you really know what you're asking.
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I have experience...3 years riding, that comes to a total of roughly 13,000 miles. I currently own a Virago 750 and want to upgrade. I have ridden my friends R6 a couple of times for short rides. I never really got a chance to really feel the power; for he was on my bike and we took it easy. Like I stated before I am looking to purchase an R1 and was wondering how it rode. On my bike I can accelarate as fast as the bike can and the front wheel comes up a matter of 6" or so. I was wondering what to epect from a R1. To rephrase the question: how cautious do you have to be not to wheelie (when riding next to your mother!)? How much power can you use when coming off the line, 50% or is it closer to 30% or what? How about coming out of a turn that you took at say 30 mph. I am just trying to get a 'feel' for a R1 before I start looking more seriously.
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getting the bike to wheelie is directly proportional to how far you wind the throttle open. If you do a normal start off the line and then wind it to full open you will get a power wheelie. If you pussyfoot around the front end will stay firmly planted. Since most 1 liter superbikes will go 100+ mph in first gear and leave big black streaks on the ground from wheel spin and power wheelie in second gear at 100+ mph I wouldn't recomend any of them as a first bike. My z1000 isn't nearly as fast as an R-1 but it is still more then most beginners can handle. If you've had some experience then get one and take it easy until you become accustomed to the power delivery.

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Just by asking the question - you do not need an R1.

"How hard/easy is it to wheelie by accident?"

Read that back to yourself a few times real slow...

Wow, I'm in total amazment...

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From experience on the R1, I'd have to advise you to quickly educate that right hand of yours and watch the speed. I am usually at 130 mph just getting onto the freeway at an entrance ramp. The bike does not ever feel like it is going that fast. But it does. You get a little cocky, you can flip it in third gear. Maybe be even higher gears, but I haven't had enough road to get it that fast in a higher gear at high rpm's.

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iam consened that you are even considering a r1 after asking that question , liter bikes wheelie very easily, see if you can take your friends r6 out again and give it some and imagine someting with 400cc more engine and that is the r1. i have never rode a r1 but my honda is its equal just like the zx-10 and if you have never rode 1 i would sugest something like a r6 for awhile before going up to the r1. if you do get the r1 take it very easy till you get use to it then continue taking it easy for a bit longer.

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You won't get a feel for the bike by asking questions on an internet forum, either. (Partly because you'll get a lot of smartass replies like this one! )
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