Apuddy, check out the Hein Gericke stuff. I have a nice jacket that is black and white 1.2-1.4 mm thick, soft armor. Buy it a little big, and you can fit what ever armor you wish under it. They also make a pant for that jacket that has tight ankles and plenty of room for full tuck and it zippers all the way around for track day. You just have to put your own slider on and you have a great set of leathers for under 500 bucks. PS, Joe Rocket sucks.