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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 08-05-2000, 08:52 PM Thread Starter
 
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Gixxerboy,

If you look at the Yamaha R1 screensaver you will see how far to lean a bike over. The dude is scrapping his elbow
Does your bike feel comfortable when leaned over? Do you make the turns? Are you comfortable with your turns? That is all that matters. So what if your friend hangs his body off the bike and drags his knees. If you have leather's with the knee pucks then try 'em a couple of times - it takes some getting used to. There is no "one" perfect riding style.

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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 08-05-2000, 11:59 PM
 
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maN~! i was wondering how far down do you all get your bikes in the twisties.. i was told you can judge how low a rider goes by how much fresh rubber is like worn on the to the edge of his or her.. tires.. my is worn all the way to the edge.. theres only like half a centimeter left and i was told by some people that you dont want to go too far because you can lose it easier at that edge.. I looked at his tires on his zx6r and it wasn't that far to the edge, on the rear tire.. and he used to be a semi professional racer in china. Anyhow, am i riding wrong?.. well not wrong, but not gettin off the bike far enough,(meaning am i leaning it down too far and not getting far enough off the bike?).. info would help.. hehe.. gotta be able to hang in the twisties. im fairly new to this game.. although i can hold my own... im young.. .. hehe..


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post #3 of 14 (permalink) Old 08-06-2000, 03:29 AM
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In Keith Code's Twist of the Wrist-II, he goes into leaning the rider, instead of so much the bike. He explains way better than I do and has far more clout--check the book out.

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post #4 of 14 (permalink) Old 08-06-2000, 10:03 AM
 
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Check out the "riding tips" post.

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post #5 of 14 (permalink) Old 08-06-2000, 06:42 PM
 
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Well I scaped the tail cowling but that doesn't count.

I tend to keep about 5mm or so away from the edge. I don't drag my knees through turns yet I pass people that do. I think it comes down to your confidence going through the turn. If you feel good about it and are holding you line keep it up. Besides you'll know when your at the very edge by the sudden sideways movement!

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post #6 of 14 (permalink) Old 08-07-2000, 09:30 AM
 
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Thanks guys for your help and replys... im not worried that my freind wit a yamaha leans farther off hiis bike then me. he juss gets to ride a canyon to work everyday.. so hes more used to it.. im coo with how im riding.. and yeah i am trying to get off the bike way more.. instead of leaning the bike.. i learn more and more everytime i get out.. was juss out on Muholland hwy and at the rockks storre this past sunday.. i luv that ride. i dont drag my knee cuz i dont hvae leathers.. and dont want no hole in my jeans ... but i'll have some when iget to willowsprings for a race schooL. and i will definately check out the "riding tips" and the book.. you guys suggested..

cornering as hard as he can .. :P for now..

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post #7 of 14 (permalink) Old 08-09-2000, 07:05 PM
 
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Hey Gixxerboy,

Unless you are on the track, try not to worry so much about how far down you get it on the street.

I used to worry about my 3/4 inch "chicken-strips" on either side of my rear tire on my F4 and I was always trying to lean hard to wear those out on the street.

Well one day while leaned way over, some cager decided he had enough time to jump out in front of me from a side street while I was hard in the corner, and I just barely managed to miss him, but nearly totalled my F4 in the process ($5500 worth of damage).

I now have my fixed F4 back, but I've realized that I have no business getting that leaned over on the street.

If you really want to lean the bike over, go on the track where you're sure there's no gravel or idiot cagers, if you keep trying to drag the hero blobs on the street one day you might run into gravel or an idiot cager like I did, and the consequenses are not pretty.

I'm now more concerned with enjoying the fact that I can still enjoy and ride my F4 and someday I will wear out the last edges of the tires on the track under controlled circumstances.

Hope you don't have to learn that lesson in such a hard way.

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post #8 of 14 (permalink) Old 08-09-2000, 10:46 PM
 
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yO john.. thanks for the advice.. i'll always keep that inmind.. im not worried about eating up the"chicken strips" on the side of my tire.. since i only have about i'd say.. less than a 1/4" left.. but i would luv to hit the tracks.. juss not there yet.. and we do most of our leaning in the canyons.. where there are a lot less cars.. but still mad gravel everywhere.. i hear ya .. and sure i dont want to lay my baby down..sorry to hear about yours..

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post #9 of 14 (permalink) Old 08-10-2000, 04:19 AM
 
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I actually don't have any chicken strips front or back. I don't drag my knees though. One reason for not having chicken strips is due to me staying centered on the bike and leaning more to make turns. I have seen many people knee draggin and they have major chicken strips. I don't speed around corners all over the place but when riding up mountains like Palomar that has 180+ degree sweepers get tend to get leaned over pretty far. I'm sure I could get my knee down but what for... I like the lean factor.

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post #10 of 14 (permalink) Old 08-10-2000, 05:26 AM
 
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I think you will find you have much more traction than you are able to use. The really fast guys I know, that crash occasionally, lever the tires off the ground by dragging hard parts. I use my entire rear tire and all but about 1/8 inch of my front on either side. My VFR is setup with about 1 1/4 inches of static sag in the rear. This results in dragging the peg feelers when leaning over hard. I have never gotten close to dragging my knees.

I have worn my last 2 front tires out on the outside before I wear the centers to the wear markers. I have been getting a lot of rubber balled up on the outside 1/3 of the fronts, D207's.

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