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great website, wanted to share.
http://www.samnet.net/racingrep/tips.html

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Cool article Tony...lots of good info...even good as a refresher for those that have been around....You know I was thinking I never heard of the PACE in MSF...it seems to me, that I first heard of it here...You would think that would be something they mention.

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will, it's funny you should mention the msf course. i'm taking the basic course next week. my girlfriend is taking it and she wants support.

it should be fun. i took it 5 years ago, can't wait. maybe i'll wear my leathers for the day of the test. i'm not sure i'll be able to, i hear they use a cruiser bike now.

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Pretty useful article (not that I don't already know everything ).

Pictures are pretty cool, too. Less strain on the eyes.

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Great web site. Has been a lot of good information published in Motorcylist and Sprot Rider that was referenced here. I am going to book mark this site for future reference. It is like being in school a good review helps!!

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Quite a good articles, but I have two queries about stuff it said:

Regarding countersteering. I find that I use it routinely not just to get into corners, but should I want to tighten up the corner. I'm sure that everyone must do this (maybe not consciously) - just a small pressure on the inside bar to keep it in the turn - especially when on the power in the turn.

Secondly - the ball of your foot is you heel right? Going into a corner I most surely don't keep the ball of my foot on the peg. I tranfer the toe of my foot onto the peg for the inside peg of the bike. This from having had my left foot trapped between the road and the gear lever (causing a change up).

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Aril, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Blackbird:
Quite a good articles, but I have two queries about stuff it said:

Regarding countersteering. I find that I use it routinely not just to get into corners, but should I want to tighten up the corner. I'm sure that everyone must do this (maybe not consciously) - just a small pressure on the inside bar to keep it in the turn - especially when on the power in the turn.

Secondly - the ball of your foot is you heel right? Going into a corner I most surely don't keep the ball of my foot on the peg. I tranfer the toe of my foot onto the peg for the inside peg of the bike. This from having had my left foot trapped between the road and the gear lever (causing a change up).

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the ball of your foot is the part just after your toes (must be an american term).

yes, you do use counter-steering to add more leaan angle, which allows you to turn tighter. there's a lot of discussion on just how counter-steering works.

one school taught that you don't push with the inside hand, but pull with the outside because you have better muscle control that way (saw it on their video, didn't do that school). i ride this way myself, i noticed that i can force the bike down quicker doing it that way.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Aril, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cbrf2boy:
the ball of your foot is the part just after your toes (must be an american term).

yes, you do use counter-steering to add more leaan angle, which allows you to turn tighter. there's a lot of discussion on just how counter-steering works.

one school taught that you don't push with the inside hand, but pull with the outside because you have better muscle control that way (saw it on their video, didn't do that school). i ride this way myself, i noticed that i can force the bike down quicker doing it that way.

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But your heel is almost round like a ball!
Oh well neverminds.

I mainly push the inside bar, but am starting to use a combination of the two. I don't like just pulling the outside - I feel I have less control.


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dave,

when pulling on the outside, it's best if you leave your forearm on the tank. it sounds wierd, but once you get the positioning down, it's cool.

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