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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 07-28-2000, 08:48 PM Thread Starter
 
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Hi all my name is Jordon .This is my first post and I hope to post more.I have read other posts in the past about people who want their bike to be a r1 or a zx12 and thats a bit much. I want my first bike to be a 929rr.Now before I start any controversy Im going to say that the MSF course is definitely coming for me in the near future. I also will respect the bike.I am no where near a squid.I was going to take the gradual approach to my bike like dont leave 1st for about 2 mnths.(I know thats a bit extreme but im trying to stress my point).I think im taking the right approach.Please let me know what you think

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post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old 07-28-2000, 08:58 PM
 
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929 eh? ok...this is for azscotty people... be ez on this kid. just tell him nicely how starting with a small bike is better than starting out with a big bike. after all, we all started with training wheels right? ok..some didnt but most of us did. so, basically saying, start off like me, with a 250cc motorcycle. the kawasaki 250 is a good bike. can top at 130 mph, but with this small bike, it mostly acts as a training wheel to be familiar with how a motorcycle works. well...i'm sure others have opinions...just dont be harsh...we start somewhere. this person just need where to take the first step. no offense intended.

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post #3 of 22 (permalink) Old 07-29-2000, 09:04 AM Thread Starter
 
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ya u do have a valid point.Ill rethink it.My main question is..if i take the msf course through the intermediate course on my own bike would that be smarter?And I have seen how badly others can be reprimanded on this topic so ill try to play it safe by asking simple questions

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Do AZ SCOTT a favor and get a moped and learn on that first . Seriously, don't even consider the 929 as a first bike, especially at your age (not to knock you for being an enthusiastic young rider). Are you old enough to driver where you live? I would suggest logging atleast a few 1000 miles in a car before you go out and get ANY motorcycle. If you're like most teenage drivers, you'll probably do something stupid when you're first learning to drive (better to be in a car during this learning curve). What I'm saying is, learning to ride a motorcycle takes a great deal of concentration, and you need to focus on the motorcycle and not basic driving skills. When driving a car is complete 2nd nature, then and only then should you consider getting a motorcycle (and a small one at first). Absolutely take the MSF course. I saw a father and son taking the course together (kid was getting a 250 Ninja if he passed) and I thought this was the coolest thing a father could do. Made a mental note to do the same with my daughter when she's old enough (she already loves motorcycles ).

Welcome to the forum, lots of great people here. Hope you didn't take anything I said as a slam at you--just worry when a teenager wants a 929. I think even a 250 Ninja is a hell of a lot of bike for a beginner. Best of luck in your cycling endeavor.

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post #5 of 22 (permalink) Old 07-29-2000, 09:55 AM Thread Starter
 
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You guys are rite.. I am kinda aiming a little hi. I also want to thank you guys for not completely diminishing my confidence and slamming me.Im glad there are people out there like u guys that would rather help a beginner than make him feel stupid.

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post #6 of 22 (permalink) Old 07-29-2000, 10:00 AM
 
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ha...no problem dude. i just started riding my bike not long ago. you live in pleasantville? hmm...dude, i live in princeton. if you get a bike, we should ride together or somethin...laterz

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post #7 of 22 (permalink) Old 07-29-2000, 01:45 PM
 
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My first bike was a Honda CM200T Twinstar. I agree that small is right when first learning to ride a bike. Dirt bikes are good and dirt feels less painful than pavement...I know, believe me. My second bike was a dual purpose Suzooki SP200. That was a blast to ride-as a teenager. I then got a 93 Suzuki Bandit 400, a nice ride that I still have and looking to sell...My ride now is a 91 F2 that is in awesome shape. I believe the gradual approach is best when bikes are concerned-lets you smell the roses.
I am now seriously looking at a bigger sport bike, like an R1, or a Busa...we'll see. Just keep in mind that a small bike is still big fun but demands skill and caution nonetheless. When learning how to ride, especially aggressively, a small bike is way more forgiving than a high horsepower bike. Say you're cranking it over in a curve, give it too much throttle, and the back steps out. A smaller bike will give you more room for error in these situations. You're confidence is important, so you need to be in control. As far as road hazards, you have to know the rules of he road and the biggest hazard I've come across is other cars. Be alert when riding!
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post #8 of 22 (permalink) Old 07-29-2000, 03:44 PM
 
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This is my first post to the board. I started with a POS 75 Honda CB360T. Just recently, I got a 00 Ninja 500R. This is my first sports bike. My observations are that riding a cruiser and then riding a sports bike are night and day. I feel like I'm learning to ride all over again. Just be smart and take small steps. I would recommend getting beater bike to start with before toying with the sport bike. Dropping an inexpensive beater bike is more tolerable than a new 929rr.

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post #9 of 22 (permalink) Old 07-29-2000, 07:14 PM
 
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Welcome LateSleeper!

And congrats on your 500R, that's a great machine- and I like the styling of the new ones a lot. Wickliffe, eh? We should get together for a ride sometime.

I'm sorry Noreaster- but when I read you wanted to get a 929 because it's not quite the step an R1 or ZX-12 is- I almost fell off my chair.

The thing that gets me is that newbies read through the mags and think that the testers notes and results would actually apply to them personally. What seems to get lost somewhere is that when a magazine says something like "well, the R1 is faster than the 929" or "we like the 929 'cause it's more comfortable" that's completely useless info to you, the aspiring rider. No offense, but you'd most likely crap your pants and possibly lose control the first time you rocked the throttle back on even the most sedate 600cc sportbike. The power is like a drug for a lot of these kids who go out and just destroy themselves and their new toys. Rug Burn is so right- drive a freakin' car before you even think about throwing a leg over a bike. Driving a car is one thing- but the skill and constant effort it takes to ride a bike is something else entirely. Yes- take the MSF classes- they are great tools, but they won't make you invincible.

Do you guys even have a clue as to just how fast these bikes really are? I mean have you envisioned how exactly you get a motorcycle to turn at speed? Just turn the bars, right? Or hang your knee off the side-that'll do it- right? And why would you even want to part with TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS -not mention the insane insurance premium- for a motorcycle you'll more than likely to drop in your driveway?! I'm sure you'll try to be careful- but [email protected]*t happens.

And you know you'll have to show off a bit for your cronies- admit it, you will... and that's where you can get yourself hurt- and fast.

You say you're not even close to being a squid- but you're halfway there already!

Look- I'm not trying to be a d*!k- and I'm not trying to discourage you. But believe it or not, there are some of us that have been there, done that. Don't take it personally- if you go about entering the world of motorcycling the right way, you'll probably do just fine. Just ditch the Ricky Racer fantasies for now, and leave the 929's, R1's and ZX-12's to the pictures on your wall. Save your money, buy some good protective gear, take the MSF course, and start shopping for a 250 or 500 Ninja like these other guys.

I could never sell motorcycles. If some high school kid wandered in and handed me his money for a 929RR as his first ride, I'd quit my job before I sold it to him. Sheesh!

'cane

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post #10 of 22 (permalink) Old 07-30-2000, 02:39 AM
 
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I bought a ZX12R as my first road bike and feel very comfortable with it for two reasons:

Firstly, I have been driving a car for more than 20 years.

Secondly, I ride motocross on weekends which has taught me to respect bikes and their unforgiving power.

If you buy anything but a 250cc as a first bike without relative experiences you might be shortening your chance of survival. Bikes are not toys and should be respected.

Even a 500cc will get you into trouble due to the temptations of doing squidly acts. If you were buying a dirtbike even a 125cc would be a dangerous weapon.

Just want to see you survive to post again.

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