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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-22-2004, 12:54 PM Thread Starter
 
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Manual Trans Car relating to Bike?

Do you guys think that it is easier to learn the shifting and friction zone of a bike, if you already know how to drive a manual trans car?

I took my MSF 4 day course last year...when I took the course, I didn't know how to drive a manual transmission car yet, only automatic. The first day on the bikes, I stalled the bike a whole bunch of times, it was because I started letting the clutch out slowly and rolling on the throttle, and right as I felt the bike start moving, I would just let the clutch out completely and it would stall.

This is the same problem I had (and I think it's the most common problem) when I was learning how to drive a stick shift car. I would have it in 1st gear, let the clutch out slowly and push on the gas pedal slowly, and right as I felt the car moving I would take my foot off the clutch completely and it would stall.

Well, that was last year, I know how to drive a manual trans car just fine now, I've had stick shift car for about 8 months or so, so I've been driving it for 8 months.

Do you guys think if I took the MSF riding portion of the course again I would do a lot better as far as shifting the bike goes, since I know how to drive a manual trans car?

I know they are 2 different things...(bike, and car) but as far as the concept of shifting goes, they aren't much different. This is just like hockey. I played roller hockey for 8 years. So I had 8 years experience on rollerblades. I started playing ice hockey about 2 years ago...the very first time I put ice skates on and was skating around the rink, I did really well and I think it's because I already had a lot of experience doing rollerblading which is the same concept as ice skating as far as how you take off from a stop and how you push your legs out and move your arms and all that.

This thread is wayy too long, I just realized that. Sorry guys.
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post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-22-2004, 01:03 PM
 
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totally different

You use the clutch on a bike with ur hand not ur foot.. Same for the gas. Get a bike and do some practicing... Bike is much more jumpier than a car..
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you probably will do better & retaking the MSF course is a good idea
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post #4 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-22-2004, 01:39 PM
 
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car is harder then a bike i find...but both are easy like cutting butter....mauals are more fun in a car because you can throw her in reverse build up some speed and then cut the wheel throw her in 1st and light em up like james bond would
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Re: totally different

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You use the clutch on a bike with ur hand not ur foot.. Same for the gas.
Yea, I already know this
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Re: totally different

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You use the clutch on a bike with ur hand not ur foot.. Same for the gas.
This is true. But if you understand what to do with a cars clutch you will understand what to do with a bike clutch. I rode a bike long before i ever got into a car. And I learned how to drive a car on a manual Tranny. Did not take me long at all.
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yep i had already owned a manual car before my bike so learning was so much faster than those i've seen learning to ride w/o ever driving a manual car. i would definitely say that knowing how to drive stick helps in the learning to ride process. even though hand and foot processes are switched on a bike, the principle and technique remain the same.
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yep i had already owned a manual car before my bike so learning was so much faster than those i've seen learning to ride w/o ever driving a manual car. i would definitely say that knowing how to drive stick helps in the learning to ride process. even though hand and foot processes are switched on a bike, the principle and technique remain the same.
My point exactly. I feel the same way, that's why I'm curious as to how much better I would do if I took the course again now that I know how to drive a stick.
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My point exactly. I feel the same way, that's why I'm curious as to how much better I would do if I took the course again now that I know how to drive a stick.
The course will make you better period, regardless of your knowledge prior to taking it.

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I actually find it much easier to learn how to manually shift on a bike, rather than a car. For one thing, you have enough limbs to cover all the controls without having to remove a foot or hand and operate something else. Also, I find the cluth usage on a bike to be far more user friendly, because motor-control of your hands is a bit easier than with feet, so you have more control. Well, that's my opinion anyway.

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