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post #1 of 51 (permalink) Old 12-07-2001, 05:43 AM Thread Starter
 
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Passenger Headbutt

I'm sure everyone has had the lovely experience of shifting through the gears or braking hard, when all of a sudden you get clocked from behind by your passengers helmet. Now, I have only been a passenger on a motorcycle, maybe 2 times in my life. It was on a 78 Honda Hawk so I don't know if it can be compared to the slumped over style of a sport bike, but are passengers idiots or something? I had NO problem what so ever keeping my head from knocking into the drivers head while on the back. Why is it such a tough thing for some people. Give a little space and just relax.
Last night, riding around for about an hour with my girlfriend, she must have hit the back of my helmet over 10 times! I started getting upset and she told me that she just couldn't tell when I was going to shift, or brake.
What are you experiences and how did you solve the problem. Foam bumper on the back of your head? Ditch the passenger? Use an old helmet when riding with them? Throw them an elbow when ever they do it?

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Last night, riding around for about an hour with my girlfriend, she must have hit the back of my helmet over 10 times! I started getting upset and she told me that she just couldn't tell when I was going to shift, or brake.
What are you experiences and how did you solve the problem. Foam bumper on the back of your head? Ditch the passenger? Use an old helmet when riding with them? Throw them an elbow when ever they do it?-Kemosabe
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Just wack open the throttle in 1st one time....problem solved.
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Quick shift - don't rev the engine up through the rpms. A lot smoother and less head smacks. If it's a real pain in the butt, get an aftermarket seat with a detachable backrest - that way she can lean back without worrying about eating the pavement.
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I'm sure everyone has had the lovely experience of shifting through the gears or braking hard, when all of a sudden you get clocked from behind by your passengers helmet
-Kemosabe
Sorry to tell you this, but the problem is most likely with you. You need to shift and brake more smoothly when you have a passenger on the back. Practice shifting with as little perceptible lurch as possible next time you're by yourself. You may need to give it a few more revs than you usually do and let the clutch out slower than you usually do.

It's possible that the seating positions are just such that her helmet is simply closer to yours in a normal riding position than it was on the Hawk. You should, however, be able to counteract it with careful throttle and clutch control.

Good luck!
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Get used to it. My wife smacks me in the head all the time... even when we aren't two up.
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Sorry to tell you this, but the problem is most likely with you. You need to shift and brake more smoothly when you have a passenger on the back. Practice shifting with as little perceptible lurch as possible next time you're by yourself. You may need to give it a few more revs than you usually do and let the clutch out slower than you usually do.

It's possible that the seating positions are just such that her helmet is simply closer to yours in a normal riding position than it was on the Hawk. You should, however, be able to counteract it with careful throttle and clutch control.
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post #10 of 51 (permalink) Old 12-07-2001, 06:35 AM
 
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Kudos for having the extra lid for your girl.

The problem isn't your girlfriend.

Sportbikes are different than regular motorcycles. Your passenger is stretched around you in a prone position, usually with insufficient upper body strength to support herself for extended periods of time. Your helmets are naturally within close proximity to each other, making it difficult for the passenger to see around the driver's fat head. She can't see what's going on and can't anticipate your every move.

You're the one accelerating/braking/driving so erratically that she is helpless to stop it. IF you can't slow your bike down without her helmet banging yours, you're going too fast. If you can't accelerate without her helmet banging yours, you're accelerating too hard/shifting too slow. Maybe you can safely manage the speed, that's not the point. Your girl may be getting fatigued or just be unable to support herself when you stop so quick, it's like doing a full pushup unexpectedly. Have a little compassion.

IF you're getting upset, she's likely MORE irritated: She's trying to be cool and share your interest, but you're causing the problems and getting mad at her for it.

Cut her some slack and quit ruining the girl for the next cool guy with a bike!
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