Well if you're gonna be pushy about it. The first one slid on grvel went off the road at roughly 70ish, went somewhat airborne into a ditch and slammed into a concrete drainage culvert a little below midway down the bike, then it did some impressive flips and we found it, back wheel stuck up in a tree, about 10 yards into this thicket. The 900 guy just panicked coming around a bend tried to stop the bike went off the road hit a stump at about 45 50 and smashed the front rim then hit a little drain pipe and smashed the back rim, went airborne a little ways then slid down into a field. Both guys are fine, one had a broken wrist, the other had 2 broken ribs. Both were new riders trying to keep up with the faster people in the group, imagine that.